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Obama scrimmage 'not an NCAA issue'


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North Carolina athletics officials said today the school did not break an NCAA rule when coach Roy Williams watched informal pick-up game with Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama at the Smith Center.

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Asked if the event had violated any NCAA rules, Erik Christianson, director of public and media relations for the NCAA, said in an e-mail: "This was a unique situation and not an NCAA issue. It certainly was a great opportunity for the student-athletes to interact with a presidential candidate."

Under NCAA rules, coaches are not allowed to watch pick-up games during the off-season. UNC spokesman Steve Kirschner said Williams knew that he wasn’t supposed to be there under the letter of NCAA rules, but that these were “extraordinary circumstances,” and with the number of secret service personnel on site, the coach wanted to be on hand to make sure that everything went OK."

According to the NCAA Division I manual, student-athletes can participate in up to eight hours of activities per week with their team — including two hours of instruction.

However, the rules says "All athletically related activities outside the playing season are prohibited one week prior to the beginning of the final examination period for the applicable academic term through the conclusion of each student athlete’s final exams."

Monday was the first day of UNC's final exam period.

Kirschner said, however, that the morning scrimmage was a pick-up game that players were not required to attend, so it did not break the rule.

"These players play pick-up games every day, and that's what this amounted to. They were not told they had to be there," he said.

Obama spent the night in Chapel Hill following a rally late Monday at the Smith Center, then scrimmaged with the team on Tuesday morning after touring the Coach Bill Guthridge Locker Room with coach Roy Williams and his wife, Wanda.

Obama played team members that included Tyler Hansbrough, Marcus Ginyard, Marc Campbell, Surry Wood and Deon Thompson. He kept up with the run-and-gun pace for at least five minutes before benching himself.

When he got back in the game, Williams, who was watching from a chair on the sidelines, called out: "You've got the future president of the United States wide open."

Kirschner said UNC's compliance office looked into whether there were any violations after a query from the News & Observer.

— Robbi Pickeral

Posted at 12:28 pm by Rachel Carter in North Carolina

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Comment from:Bob Weaver [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 14:21
However, the rules says "All athletically related activities outside the playing season are prohibited one week prior to the beginning of the final examination period for the applicable academic term through the conclusion of each student athlete’s final exams."

Monday was the first day of UNC's final exam period.

So unless every one of the participating players took all of their exams in ONE day, this was a violation, correct?
Comment from:Matt from Raleigh [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 14:45
Seems like there's still a problem with coaches and the press being there, according to rule 17.1.6.2.2, 17.5.2.2(c,e, and f), and 17.5.3.1(a).



Comment from:JR [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 15:13
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=3373082

It looks like UNC's explanation was a violation of rules at Ball State.

"Ball State has said Thompson, who was named coach in April 2006, and his staff broke the NCAA rules last summer and in May by being at voluntary offseason team workouts. The school said the coaches lied about their involvement in the May violations"
Comment from:Derek [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 15:59
It's really no big deal, but if the coaches are watching, it ceases to be an informal pick-up game, and it becomes instruction.
Comment from:James in Willow Springs [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 17:33
Yeah, but we're they staying at The College Inn?
Comment from:James in Willow Springs [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 17:34
Also, does anybody else find it rich that UNC gets to determine what's within the rules and what's not?

Wish other schools had that kind of pull with the folks in Indianapolis...
Comment from:Beezer [Visitor]
04/29/08 at 21:03
everyone is forgeting the fact a man running for president was there participating.

this was NOTHING like the Ball ST event where they had a practice for the heck of it and then lied about it.

really pathetic News and Disturber as well as the other Tarheel haters.
Comment from:Jeff [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 07:48
Hey Beezer, a rule is a rule and in this case it may have been broken. If he was doing this at Duke you would be on your high horse preaching against Duke as always.
Comment from:JPD Ohio [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 08:27
A rule is a rule, and the NCAA has plenty that are just plain ridiculous. In this case, the NCAA is applying something it rarely uses- common sense.
Comment from:Beezer [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 08:43
the difference b/tn UNC and DUIke are the tv cameras if you want to be that way Jeff.

like JPD said, the NCAA used common sense.

and for the record I never said they (UNC) didnt break a rule. I just called out most of you guy gus for what you are ... haters! Coach was court side, in a suit not the typical practice squad garb, just in case a worse case scenario happened and he had to explain why Obama Bin Presidential Canidate hard fouled anyone!
Comment from:fredeflintstone [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 10:07
Get over it haters; we are THE University of North Carolina. The NCAA allows UNC some wiggle room with the rule book because they know what we are about. They understand we are a leader and that we do things for the betterment of mankind. We invite you all to Trinity United Church this coming Sunday to hear coach Roy Williams give the benediction; to hear the Rev. Jeremiah Wright tell us what is wrong with America and to see Barack get his 21st Year Perfect Attendance Pin. Come one, come all...."Change" is the title of the sermon.
Comment from:Tar Heel Fan [Visitor] · http://tarheelfan.wordpress.com/
04/30/08 at 10:34
Yes, had it been Duke or NCSU in the same position I would say the NCAA acted with common sense. Besides, Kirchner made a point of saying that if Roy wanted to watch his guys play off season he could pick any day of the week when the cameras are not there since UNC players do this sort of thing voluntarily all summer long.
Comment from:ncsumatman [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 14:36
flintstone, I think you have a clean up on aisle 6, and you can take your plural we and singular leader to help.
Comment from:JPD Ohio [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 17:27
Yabba-Dabba-Doo!
Comment from:jerryW [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 21:26
It's just a pick up game and fun exercise. Was there a price for admission? This let's everyone know that Obama is a good sport.
Comment from:fredeflintstone [Visitor]
04/30/08 at 23:15
Michelle Obama is now proud to be an American for the first time. She's only 40 something, what do you expect? Coach Roy will also be taking up the offering this coming Sunday.
Comment from:Beezer [Visitor]
05/01/08 at 12:09
this blog went "south" in a hurry.
Comment from:Christines [Visitor]
05/01/08 at 23:48
Oh, the Republicans want to comment!



http://www.columbiacountyrepublicanparty.org/
Comment from:Beezer [Visitor]
05/02/08 at 11:39
Christines,

screw all Dems. you simply cant mix sports and politics.

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